Pagan Centered Podcast – Episode 126 – Times are Changing

2009
11.18

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2:29 Why can’t we say “Pagan Church?”
3:16 Church as a generic term
3:25 Megachurches, Pagan Style
3:47 Structure of a Megachurch
4:13 Let’s not let the Christian connotation of Church prevent us from using the term
4:27 Pagans dislike Megachurches, but Pagan Podcasts have become the megachurches of the Pagan community.
5:03 Pagan Podcasts serve the same purpose as Christian Megachurches
5:49 Is the economic downturn an opportunity for Pagans to establish a self-sustaining economic model?
6:04 Paying our elders for their teachers. But how do they compete against free teachers?
6:14 Pagan bureaucracy?
6:40 How do we research which elders are worthy of learning from?
7:07 Paying elders is a great theory, but not a practical idea.
7:34 Our experience prevents us from starting on a clean slate
7:54 You’re gonna pay for acting against your better judgement
7:58 We either do this now, or we get stuck in the free system forever.
8:26 Looking at those who accept money now and the association of paying with being scammed.
9:05 Kris is annoyed that swindlers are out in the open, but those that know what they’re talking about never say it in the open for various reasons
9:46 Accepting big groups comes at a cost
10:01 Where do we draw the line “these people are idiots” and “we welcome everyone”
10:19 Economics of Paganism depends on answering the prior question
10:31 What are the type of people who are willing to pay for this type of thing?
11:19 You are your own biggest investment
12:06 People expect elders to fix things for them and not be compensated for their abilities and effort.
13:08 One thing to know something, another thing to shove it up their nose.
13:17 Elders are jaded from lack of respect?
13:49 Issues of lack of discipline in Paganism
14:08 Non-monetary compensation to an Elder
14:24 Don’t write off the elders that are grumpy
14:50 Don’t go to the person giving you a handout
15:05 Real Elders teach you to fix your own problems
15:22 Showing respect to elders is not part of contemporary American culture
17:43 Generation narcissism
19:06 Satanist says people are too self-indulgent nowadays
19:44 Every vice is a virtue in the extreme
21:48 ZOMG, Search trends for Wicca are going down… noooooze!
23:06 Where’s Robert Adams been?
23:56 Maybe these search trends indicate many folks are moving beyond the basics and pursuing specific paths rather than general paths.
24:57 Google searches don’t reflect books and podcasts
25:18 Maybe it’s just the fad people going away?
25:39 Failure to convert
25:59 The Church makes no sense.
26:32 Kris’ story about getting kicked out of a church.
27:12 Back to looking at the Wiccan religion
27:30 Why is it a fluffy “bunny?”
28:32 Pagan police officers now getting off for Sabbats
29:17 Military Pagan organizations
30:32 Explaining Gaggle of Penii
31:16 Dishwasher full of actual dildos?
32:07 Subtly offending co-workers
33:43 Life outside of Earth?
35:23 Dave’s House
36:53 Why are we building The Terminator?
37:37 Shamans in the hospitals and our personal experiences with faith in hospital settings
44:15 Maybe this swift positive change is brought on by mass media?
46:30 Mark and Magic Cards
49:19 Magic Cards and Tournaments (OT)
50:32 Fixing the Pagan Economic Situation via Gaming
50:45 Fixing your own economic situation requires realizing what you are going to do is going to suck.
51:04 Rising cost of living
51:28 PCP on the street
51:54 Bodily functions
52:35 Uservoice is awesome
52:51 We are deprived of intellectual discussion
55:05 Reading about The Twilight Path
55:55 If you tae the time!
56:27 Go outside your ordinary.
56:49 Resuming of Animal Sacrifices in Texas
57:35 Case Study: how Clarion University has changed since we graduated
58:27 Some universities are showing trends opposite that of Clarion University
59:29 There’s typically going to be many Pagans on a college campus
59:59 The Clarion University Wellness Wheel