Pagan Centered Podcast – Episode 130 – Queen Load Drama Fest

2009
12.17

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01:33 What is Otherkin?
02:19 Are people claiming to be Otherkin to avoid lonliness? Perhaps to acquire a new family to substitute for inadequate family bonds.
03:12 Otakukin
03:24 Examples of Otherkin
04:45 Spirit as energy rather than form
05:11 Incarnating as humans as “trading down” with regards to incarnation.
06:03 Not all Otherkin want to embrace their soul, they try to block this stuff and ignore it to no success.
06:34 Regardless, we’re still human and we have an urge to conform.
07:11 Why would anyone want to be Otherkin?
08:02 Furries as a parallel
08:32 Some people accentuate their kin-ness as a “get out of jail free card” to avoid being normal.
08:59 Three step program for relatively accurately identifying Otherkin
10:02 Someone saying you’re such and such, and then that person identifying as that as a result.
10:18 Otherkin is like the UFO phenomenon, 95% of it is crap but the other 5% makes you think.
10:29 Otherkin from a psychological aspect.
11:30 LARPing and Otherkin identities
12:17 Splintered personality theory
14:36 Traumatic awakenings
15:01 Have we ever met any Pagan who has not experienced trauma?
16:12 Some otherkin seek their soul’s form because it is either an aspirational quality or a quality they do not want in their lives.
16:37 Wolfkin
17:30 PSA: Don’t develop secondary personalities a coping mechanism.
18:20 Otherkin the phenomenon vs. Otherkin the mental illness
18:35 Otherkin from a Native American perspective
19:33 The cardinal sin of the Otherkin community: Thou Shalt Not Dwell on the Past
19:52 Reincarnation as a growing up process.
20:25 Why is Native American culture so distant from Otherkin as a concept?
20:56 In Native American culture, being incarnated as another species helps you get to where you are now. You are not supposed to ignore where you are now.
21:30 Stories of Coyote coming down in various forms, including human.
22:22 Humans are not smart enough to understand the vastness of spirit.
22:36 Coyote vs. Grandfather Coyote
23:15 Dave rants: Otherkin should not dwell on the past, shut up and move on!
23:57 It’s easy to get to WTF when researching Otherkin.
24:22 Glamour reincarnation stories
25:13 Those who are into past life regression for the money.
27:05 Otherkin claiming to be gods in human form
28:31 Gods can do whatever they want, but does it happen?
28:45 Gods do god type things like… stuff. Not posting to Otherkin forums.
29:49 Blonde haired snow white girl saying she’s an aztec goddess… probably not the truth.
30:33 Before you claim something, google it!
31:04 Claiming to be the incarnation of many gods.
32:02 Micromanagement
32:26 What are the gods actually doing?
33:08 The awkwardness of claiming to be a god, then dieing and visiting the actual god.
33:36 Names
34:38 In our experience with Otherkin, have we ever observed anything blatantly not possible by a human being? Where do we draw the line of what humans are capable of?
35:50 You are confined to the shell within which you are working, but you can exercise that shell.
37:05 Human ability to do bullet time
37:52 Being Otherkin is not a superpower, it’s an affinity, a flavor.
38:56 Otherkin are not up and above, just abnormal (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
39:43 Parallel of transgendered individuals with Otherkin
40:47 Examples of Otherkin: Pixie Boy
42:03 Drawing energy from extraterrestrial origins
42:55 An electrical analysis of metaphysical grounding
44:06 Grounding as both receiving and sending energy
44:49 Occultism vs. Paganism
45:32 Pagans should not demand things of their gods.
46:16 Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for your country (spiritually speaking)
47:34 Reincarnation
48:00 Otherkin still have a lot of the heuristics of their past lives, but perhaps they need to move on.
48:41 People with identity crises
49:23 Feeling one is not entirely normal vs. those who want to be a wolf.
50:07 People come up with strange ways of dealing with issues.
50:59 Difference between dealing with a problem and avoiding a problem.
51:49 Introspect: why is it that these people living in their fantasy world is bothering you?
52:49 If it’s laughable and not thinkable, why discuss it?
54:24 If it’s possible for us to believe what we believe, is it also acceptable for Otherkin to believe what they do?
55:27 The more your belief deviates from the mainstream, the more you will need to justify your belief to the mainstream
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56:26 What came first, the human or the soul?
56:43 What makes us feel that a human is soul?
57:31 Otherkin analogy of water bowls
58:00 What is Otherkin?
58:44 Hinduism incorporates the concept of Otherkin, just not by that name.
58:59 This discussion assumes we understand where souls come from.
59:23 We’re defining Otherkin as not human, but we’re not defining what a human soul is.
1:00:19 Mindsets of reincarnation as they relate to belief in Otherkin
1:00:44 Carrying things from life to live.
1:00:58 Old Souls
1:01:36 Think about a lesson you want to impart upon the future incarnation of your soul.
   
1:00:44 Carrying things from life to live.
1:00:58 Old Souls
1:01:36 Think about a lesson you want to impart upon the future incarnation of your soul.