Pagan Centered Podcast – Episode 144 – Energy Feeding

2010
03.24

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02:02 Psychic vampires are not related to Cullenism
02:25 Jim tells us that HE is a psychic vampire
02:51 Jim explains the research he’s done…on forums?
03:12 Psychologist use the term psychic vampire too, but slightly different than metaphysical communities.
03:31 Psychic vampires according to Dion Fortune
03:51 Psychic vampires according to LaVey
04:20 Shout out to www.psychicvampire.org
04:26 Let’s remember that LaVey was a showman, take his words with a grain of salt
05:24 Where do psychic vampires fit into the otherkin community?
05:37 Even otherkin don’t like otherkin, and the practice of not mentioning what you actually feel you are on forums
06:06 Otherkin have problems classifying psychic vampires as an acutal kin type
06:29 The idea of psychic vamparism as a character trait rather than a kin type
07:38 Most people have the ability to leech energy
07:55 Vamparism is defined by the “need” to feed not the ability to do so
08:18 Psychic vampires are just like a parasite
08:23 Vampire ethics movement
09:03 Jim’s first experience with being told he’s a psychic vampire
09:35 The negative stigma of psychic vampires
10:21 Theory of what causes someone to be a psychic vampire
10:42 Prana is the Sanskrit term for life energy
11:15 Any theory discussed is unverified personal gnosis, so take with a grain of salt
11:31 Psychic vampire doesn’t just realte to people, but also elemental, electronic, ect…
11:49 What do we call someone who is a psychic vampire that sucks tantric energy? A succubus
12:13 Branden relates psychic vampire to otherkin
13:25 The idea is not whether psychic vampire is or is not otherkin, the idea is that something is going on that is important enough to take notice of
14:12 Someone confirming what you already believe leads to thinking your hypothesis is truth
15:04 Psychic vamparism related to others who have a tendency to antagonize another’s emotions in order to feed off of them
15:53 The Black Veil is a list of rules about how vampires are supposed to act
16:44 Hate is delicious!
16:49 The doner aspect of psychic vampire communities
17:13 Jim’s pole of 11 people on how pagans react to psychic vampires
18:15 Dave’s angry about when energy feeders do something that in a mundane sence, would be considered innapropriate, but think it’s okay because it’s metaphysics.
18:53 Even if you pick up energy some left behind…it’s still not “clean”
19:11 The three different types of energy feeding
20:05 Psychic vamparism points to a greater problem that should be addressed intstead of indulging upon feeding
21:18 Reasons psychic vampires try to use to say how it’s okay what they do
21:37 Sometimes, people in pain don’t realize at the time that they need help, it’s part of the mark of trauma.
21:54 Using examples of homosexuality or skin color as an argument against fixing psychic vamparism is flawed
22:11 Having an iron deficiency doens’t make it okay for s omeone to duck blood, psychic vampires should be no differe
22:30 The idea of psychic vamparism is a relatively new idea
22:55 People in the vamp communities to self-analyze
23:23 A peer group is not the most successful at being unbias when you’re searching for truths
24:20 There are people out there professionally to talk to, perhaps not specifically on psychic vamparism, but on whether your tendencies are healthy or not
25:12 The forum Jim visits doesn’t just pat eachother on the back, they’re skeptical of others too
25:47 Dones sound like people with an excess of energy just trying to feel usefull
26:07 Negative side-effects of being a psychic vampire
26:23 Trying to relate empathy to psychic vamparism
27:50 The discussion of whether empathy is the same as psychic vamparism…conclusion…no
29:26 A major difference between empaths and vampires is that empaths don’t feed off of the energy
30:04 Many psychic vampires are empaths but not all empaths are psychic vampires?
30:11 Having a psychic vampire as an empath seems counterproductive
30:39 Jim’s psuedo empathy theory
31:20 Just so we all know, psychic vampires aren’t all goths
32:07 What about people who are feeding off of others without realizing it?
32:51 How does someone tell they are feeding off of someone?
34:20 Friends supposedly have aspects of psychic vampirism amonst themselves
34:46 There’s a subconscious aspect to a lot, if you’re doing things unconsciously, it’s not necessarliy vamparism, you might just be messing with them
35:43 Are people just not understanding how people bond when relating to psychic vampirism?
36:59 Dave relates being a psychic vampire to having OCD
37:28 If saying you have a need to feed, it’s no different than saying it’s an addiction
38:09 Addiction vs need is hard to decipher, so introspect
38:37 Never just look solely for information to back up your hypothesis
39:27 Forums, though often considered so, are far from objective. Like minds, even when disagreeing, make outlandish ideas seem okay because of the large group. Beware of stupid people in large number, for they’ll convince each other that they intelligence combines to make them smart.
40:19 Why can’t psychic vampires feed off the earth and other sources rather than people?
41:30 Jim tells us how he doesn’t “see” energy
42:18 A popular feeding method on the forum discussion is by energy tendrils
43:20 Can psychic vampires feed off of dead things too?
43:52 Don’t eat your cat
44:01 What about feeding off of elderly and sickly in order to assist people? It’s not a negative thing, but not necessarily normal.
45:31 Not talking about feeding off of negative energy like fear or pain of suffering, but more so towards people who take the energy of pain away to help a healing process
45:56 Sounds similar to the christian death eaters
46:58 What does our chat room have to contribute? Poo Vampires….
47:11 Scurvy askes about someone bringing down the mood of a whole room, it is psychic vampirism?